Sep 29 2008
Religious Intolerance
I was reading a post on Lesbian Said What about Religious intolerance and amongst the comments was a post by some character called “Sane” who struck me as being totally insane. His argument against Gay Marriage was so laughably bigoted I had to repost it just to be sure I inhabit the same world.
“Sane” cites an article which is a synopsis of a book by Dr. James Dobson, called “Marriage Under Fire”. Dobson, a homophobe and evangelical Christian seems to be pretty dumb for a guy a with a PHD in psychology, so sit back and enjoy as a lay university drop-out (ie: me) savages his arguments. Which for the record, can be found here: http://nosamesexmarriage.com/marriage/nogaymarriage.php
Argument #1. Same Sex Marriage Decays Families
Dobson cites the example of Scandinavia where half of all children are born out of wedlock. OK – what has this got to do with same-sex couples? After all same-sex relationships don’t produce children! I think we can squarely lay the blame for this statistic on the straight community.
Argument #2. Gay Marriage Will Lead to Polygamy
Actually this hasn’t proved to be the case at all. Gay marriage and civil partnerships where available, have largely been taken up by monogamous couples. We’ve had several years of legal “gay marriage” in various countries and to date, no-one has ever been charged with Polygamy, ie: marrying more than one person, (an offence under UK, European and US law) whereby the offender was married or in a civil-partnership with someone of the same sex.
To be honest Dobson here I think is confusing polygamy with polyamorous relationships, and as I’ve already stated it tends to be monogamous couples who take advantage of civil partnerships or gay marriage. The incidence of married polyamorous gay couples seems to be about the same as the incidence of polyamorous straight couples. Don’t believe me? Join a swingers club.
Argument #3. States Will No Longer Protect Marriage
Actually legalising gay marriage is all about protecting partnerships and giving gay, lesbian and bisexual couples the same legal rights as straight couples. How can we accused of undermining marriage when we are actually trying to encourage it?
Contrary to Dobson’s theory that it will make divorce easier. As far as gay marriage its concerned when it comes to divorce settlements, it actually makes it harder for gay couples to separate without financial consequences and gay-marriage actually rewards same-sex couples for staying together.
Argument #4. Children Will Be Taught Perversion
I choked on my cocoa when I read this one… Homosexuality and Bisexuality are not perversions. What gives Dobson the right to declare it so? Its such a backward view I almost can’t believe its been published, its right up there with the view that “the world is flat.” Dobson is a psychologist, so I’ll counter with the view of a far more respected and eminent psychologist, namely Sigmund Freud. Freud believed we were all inherently bisexual and that it was societies norms and expectations that made us predominantly straight. If you define perversion by what is ‘normal’, as opposed to what is ‘natural’, then Dobson may have a point, but I’ll opt to respect nature over societies social constructs, when I start to describe things as perversions.
My increasing opinion is that Freud was right and heterosexuality is a perversion of nature perpetrated by society and religion. Children aren’t born with prejudice, they get that from adults, so by teaching them that straight is great and queer is weird I think we are perverting their minds.
Argument #5. Children Will Be Placed in Gay Households
So what? Gay and Bisexual people have been parenting children since time began, especially in times that didn’t allow them to be open or honest with themselves or others about their sexuality. Over half of my gay and bisexual friends are parents. Their kids are fine.
Oh and please don’t think this is a contradiction of Argument #1. Gay people produce kids, not same-sex couple’s… can all the small minded bigots out there keep up?
Argument #6. Parents Will Be Required to Accept Homosexuality in Their Children
Er… yes that’s the general idea… In particular Dobson seems to reference foster parents of gay children, who will apparently have to undergo “sensitivity training” so they can be accepting of gay youths. You know what I think? If you need sensitivity training to accept LGBT teens, you shouldn’t be a foster parent!
Argument #7. Gay Partners Will Burden the Government Entitlement System
I love this one… its so ill thought out, its like a lazy slow ball begging to be hit out of the ground. Dobson wants us all to be straight, so in his utopia there will be 6 Billion straight people all wanting to get married and have two point four children under wedlock. Each couple claiming benefits under government entitlement systems for married couples.
Until recently people in same sex relationships have been letting the government off the hook. Their “gayness” was a get out of jail free card for the benefits system. Imagine the burden the system would be under if all these gay, lesbian and bisexual people went straight. Could you imagine the claims?
Instead, we opted for Gay Marriage… Why? Because its cheaper!!! Yes thanks to Gay Marriage, same-sex couples have the same pension rights, and tax allowances as straight couples, but as we’ve already established gay-couples don’t produce children, so the government doesn’t have to pay for paternity leave, both partners can invariably remain in full employment for their full working lives and actually contribute more to the treasury in terms of income tax and social security than a straight couple. Best of all due to the absence of children they can at the same time be less of a burden on the system.
Argument #8. Gay Marriage Will Spread Quickly to Other Countries
Good. What’s the problem again?
Argument #9. Evangelism Will Be Hindered
Again Good. What’s the problem with that? If this is the kind of thoughtless bullshit evangelism produces then frankly its rather hindering itself without any help from the LGBT community.
Argument #10. The Culture Will Be Anti-Christian
Yet again good, though more specifically culture will be anti-Abrahamic religions, which include Judaism, Islam and Christianity. In short, more secularism. Great! Sorry, but I just don’t see any of the last 3 points as a negative.
This is intended as a scare tactic to mobilise the zealously religious parts of the USA, politically being “Anti-Christian” is almost as bigger slur as being a “liberal”. But frankly I don’t have a problem being “Anti-Christian” if being “Pro-Christian” means I have to be a bigoted homophobe that believes in the rather dubious morality of the Old Testament. Which for those of you who don’t know is where the Christian prohibition of homosexuality originates, along with other such gems as executing children who curse their parents, stoning adulterers to death and massacring women and children. Yep its all in the old testament. Yet curiously the only part of it which hasn’t been disowned by the church is the bit about homosexuality.
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OK – How did I do?
There’s a bar I go to quite regularly. I normally drop in for a beer in the early evening, not that I’m a big drinker, just that it gets me out of the house and away from my computer for a couple of hours. Working from home you need a few places to “escape to” otherwise you never stop work. Due to my early evening drink, I tend to hit this pub when it’s at its quietest. So you get to know the staff and in particular I’ve gotten to know the landlord Jon.
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